Monday, August 18, 2008

Blog reading and response

Check out the webpage http://www.popvssoda.com

Read the study conducted and comment using the following questions as guiding thoughts:


Is there a correct way to say something? Is this a good interpretation of a perceptual region? Why or why not. What opinions do you have about this study and the researchers conclusions? Give at least one other example of a perceptual region based on the definition studied in class.

13 comments:

Changing the World... said...

little wayne is wack...

tararariot! said...

I do not think there is a correct way of saying something. Language was invented because we needed a way to communicate effectively. If a particular word works effectively in a certain region, but does not in another, that does not mean that the word used in the other region is wrong. I think it is a good interpretation for a perceptual region, because using the study, you can divide the US up into regions according to how people call carbonated soft drinks. Each region has its own way of naming soft drinks, and they identify themselves as part of that region. The research itself is, in the researchers own words, imperfect at its best, because there is no way to verify if any of the information given is true. The conclusion is ambiguous. The word 'cooler' could be interpreted as 'better' or 'closer to the north, and thus colder'. In any case, the conclusion is not very clear. It should have been clearer, people might take offense. As for another example of perceptual region, if you divide Europe up into regions by religion, you also create perceptual regions.

Adam Ramesh said...

I have to agree that yes, there is a correct way to say something but it depends on where u r at. I think that this was a good idea for doing a survey on perceptual reigon because coke, pop, soda, etc... is probably the most widely sold drink in the U.S. And the fact that they those the U.S. also helps because it is so diverse and each part has its own culture so you could get a lot of different responses. I myself dont agree with their conclusion, that ppl who say pop r cooler, id ont think it matters how u say it, but i voted and said that i say coke. Another example of a perceptual reigon is football vs. soccer. In the U.S.A., if you say football, they think u mean NFL, American Football. In England if you say soccer, they dont know what your talking about or they assume you're american. And In South America and the rest of Europe, like Spain, Portugal, Italy, etc... they say futbol.

Unknown said...

There is not only one correct way of saying something. What some people think is a right way of saying something may be different than what others think is the right way of saying the same thing.
The United States is a good example of a perpetual region. It is because just in that region alone, there are so many ways of saying one thing. Meaning that in that region different people, depending on what area they are from, think somewhat differently. In my opinion this was rather interesting topic to investigate on. Alan McConchie used something that is familiar to all americans to find out how people from different part of the United States differ on how they speak or on what words they use. Though his study was interesting, his conclusion was not good. The word "cooler" is opinionated meaning that for two people cool may mean totally different things. An example of a perceptual region is west Africa. Just in Senegal and The Gambia alone, a Senegalese might say a word in wolof that doesn't seem right to a Gambian who also speaks wolof.

yongnak said...

I dont't think there really is a "correct" way to say anything, but people should talk so that others around can understand or be familiar with what your saying...
I think the survey isn't a wrong interpretation. Although this survey is probably inaccurate, it doesn't really matter, in my opinion. a perceptual region is based on people's views instead of hard facts; so if the survey shows which word people think is used most, "pop" or "soda," then it's a fine survey of a perceptual region.
An example of another perceptual region is that tepees and totem polees can be found in any Native American community?

Unknown said...

There is not a correct way; everyone has his own way to say something. We are all coming from different places or regions in the world no one speaks the same way. We’ve been raised or we learned to say something in a different way than people in other regions which forms a lot of different words with the same meaning. It is a good interpretation of a perceptual region because it shows what American people say to describe carbonated soft drinks.

The study is really interesting; we see that people from a specific region have the same particular way to say something. The conclusion could have been better. By saying that people who say “pop” are much cooler means that the other ones are not cool which is not true, they just don’t say things the same way as the majority. The conclusion should definitely be changed.

An example of perceptual region is Canadian French vs. French. If you go in France every single person will tell you that Quebecois is not French because the accent is too strong and that no one can understand Canadian French speakers. If then you go to Canada and listen carefully, it is French.

insp!re said...

I am 50/50 when it comes to a correct way of saying something or not. I understand both views and where they come from. For example the view that says there is no correct way of saying something. Everyone belongs to a different cultural background. Where you come from greatly influences the way you speak, the way you think and the way you talk.The place where you come from might say pop instead of coke. That is just the way you were brought up and therefore becomes your perception and your opinion of how to say it. I however also believe in giving credit where it's due. If the person oR group of people who created the drink called it soda,and wanted it to be called soda, then we should all call it soda since it was their invention(such as the controversial issue of the tomatoe (too-mah-toe vs. too-may-toe). This is a good example of a perceptual region since even though the tally isn't exact and accurate it aids to give the viewer a rough outline of which places have identical ways of calling soft drinks.The research however can be flawed since there is no evidence that the research was done by different people. For all we know one person could have done the survey more than once. I do not like the conclusion at all.It's so vague. Just because the number of people saying pop outnumbers the ones who say soda or coke or others that does not go to say that it is cooler to say pop.It's like saying that insects are cooler than humans just because there are more numerous. Another example of perceptual regions could be dividing up South Africa into it's nine provinces and then doing a tally to see which language is spoken the most in South Africa(they have 11 official languages)

DJ said...

I do not believe there is a correct way of saying something, there may however be a certain way of putting something, depending on the effect or reaction you want your correspondent to have. There may be a more appropriate or suited way of saying something, depending on the situation or person. The way someone says something says alot about that person, often you can tell where their from (region), their culture, perhaps their age and even their opinion about that certain subject or object. If an American would say 'sweet' (just that word, without and context) Americans would interpret that as a positive response. If you were to translate 'sweet' to Dutch, German or probably any other language, it wouldn't make sense. If a Brit were to say sweet in England it probably wouldn't make sense either, unless your describing a noun. difficult to put it, but u can probably get what im tryin to say. Even if you were to respond 'sweet' as an answer to your boss (say u work at some well respected business company :P), it would be inappropriate, so that WOULD be a WRONG way of saying something. perhaps there is a correct way of saying stuff... but referring to ur coke/pop/soda/cola/cocacola/... i guess there is NO right way of saying... i guess it completely depends on the situation.

Unknown said...

I don't think there is a right way to say somthing.
Everyone has some way to explain what they want need or if they need to declare somthing.
It's like saying there's only one way to say somthing would be kinda wrong because then only one way to communacate , all these other laugages would be wrong,
but the thing is that the way we say stuff will always evolve just like old english in Shakespear's time and in our time and 20 years from now. We used to say salutations now we say Hey what is up and 20 years we might not even use this style of English . The point is there is no right way to say somthing because , what ever we say will never stay the same way. People in Europe , America and Africa all say hi in a different way or language but how because some might use slang or some might use old greetings or religous greetings.
So basicly there can never be a correct way because everyday we add new words to our laugage.

Leo said...

I think that there is a correct way to say something. For example, someone can't understand people who don't speak their language well. Then communication is difficult and they might make fun of the person who can't speak. It is pretty good for a perceptual region, but it is just a little detail of a perceptual region; there are many more that are bigger like climate, economy, government. I think the study is pretty vague and does not represent everyone in America. For the conclusion, at the end, the author should write "in my opinion" to have it make sense. I think that pop is sort of uncool because in some parts it means to shoot someone. They should change that so a person from the Midwest doesn't go to L.A. says, "Can I get a pop?" and gets killed. I think coke is a better terminology because it was the first soda to ever be made. In France, the people see their country as a beautiful, prosperous country with lots of interesting history.

Franck Salami-Olympio said...

I don't really think there is a correct way of saying something. This is a good interpretation of a perceptual region because it shows that there can be a lot of different names for one object as the region you are in varies. I didn't completly get it because there were a couple of parts or regions on the map where all of the three different "slang names" for carbohidrated drinks were being used. I guess it shows that in some places, no matter which word you use for soft drinks you will be understood. My opinion about this study is that it wasn't really serious because it seems more like a fun thing to do when you are bored. I also thought the conclusion wasn't serious so I took it was a joke because when they say that the majority are the cooler people, there is zero logic in there because who said that the majority of people on earth are the cool ones?. My example of another perceptual region would be finding the different slang names for marijuana in different regions (mad because I was almost done when the computer shut down and had to restart)

Geoffrey said...

Is there a correct way to say something? Is this a good interpretation of a perceptual region? Why or why not. What opinions do you have about this study and the researcher’s conclusions? Give at least one other example of a perceptual region based on the definition studied in class

El Cubano's Response

I don't think that there is any specific correct way to call something. Whatever things are called, except the specific name given to it by the person that created it, is unimportant. It does not bother me at all to go to a new place and encounter people calling things differently to what I call them, I would not correct them and I would not try to impose the way I call things upon them. I would simply ask them what they are referring to and if I like the way it sounds possibly adopt that way of calling it. Regardless of what I would do when encountered with a new word for something, I already mentioned that any term that is not the original name is unimportant, because when necessary, this is the term that has to be used to reach an understanding of what the object is.

I do believe this survey is a good interpretation of perceptual region. I am glad I know that when I got to Miami again I will ask for a 'coke.'

I did enjoy looking at their study, but it is far from exact, and as I was browsing thought what was supposed to be the other names given to coke, soda, pop, etc... I came across a few surprises. The conclusion also makes this survey seem like a joke and takes credibility away from their work; they could have written a more logical conclusion or none so as to not damage the survey's image.

Another example of perceptual region is how across Europe Mobiles are called both Mobiles and Cellphones, I decided to start calling them Mobiles after this summer. :D


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Geoffrey said...

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